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  • #20025
    john
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      Sorry I haven’t heard of that before. Did play a Berg years ago, what size did you get?

      #20026
      Anonymous

        check out the vandoren website for a description of all their reed types. Some are suited better for classical & dark sounding mouthpieces (soft playing) and others are more suited for bright projecting loud jazzy sounding mouth pieces.

        traditionaly european mouthpieces were made & tested with vandorens,
        which i why a lot of orchestras use the vandoren range – for my classical grade exams, i had to change to a selmar mouthpiece & use vandoren reeds (v16 or normal vandoren reeds, and la viz reeds work just as well) otherwise i wouldn’t be able to play softly
        classical wise and get a more classical sound.

        Some of the other vandorens work well for bright loud mouthpieces,
        and the Ricoh jazz reeds work as well.

        If you use the basic standard reeds in any make, they tend to be aimed at learners and usually cover a wide range of playing – but when you get more experienced and you are looking for a specific sound – then you pick the mouthpiece in mind – and match it to a more specific reed type.

        Welcome to the setup nightmare/joyous world – and then to cap it all – what ligature are you going to use with your setup?

        #20028
        Frank Basamania
        Participant

          I got a 95/0 metal. Now I have that edgy sound but I feel like I’m starting all over again. I had a Selmer HR S80 C*. I think that had a 75 tip opening. I’m glad I didn’t go for a larger tip opening than 95. I’m having trouble getting the lows and I’m squeking a lot around high G. I’ll just keep working at it.

          #20029
          Frank Basamania
          Participant

            The mouthpiece came with a traditional looking metal ligature that fits the MP well. The sides of the reed don’t touch the ligature. I purchased a Rovner Light that suppose to maintain the lighter sound but it makes it sound darker so I went back to the Berg ligature. I also have a Fortissimo that has three different supports, I get a good sound with that but I’m tired of messing with it all the time I’m using it, it always seems like the reed is loose, it moves around no matter how hard I clamp it down.

            #20030
            Anonymous

              yeah – one of my leather ligatures
              kept slipping around – in the end i chucked it away! The rovner one
              i use at the moment, i have to
              re-adjust a few times to get the
              pitch sounding right with my tuner.

              #20032
              Z
              Participant

                I’ve had problems with a metal berg larsen too. I ordered a 105/1 a while ago and I’ve played it every once in a while to try and get it to sound good but it just doesn’t. It’s like I’m fighting the mouthpiece. It squeaks all the time in the high register and it’s literally impossible for me to play quietly. I’ve given up; metal mouthpieces just aren’t for me.

                #20033
                Michael
                Participant

                  Hey Frank–if you’re looking for a good ligature, which I believe may help you solve your problem, check out the Francois Louis ligature. I put the link below. I was turned onto to them from a friend of mine through youtube and they’re awesome. They allow the reed to vibrate like crazy and tend to make MPs with bigger tip openings/chambers much easier to play. As you know, having the right ligature is very important. The only ligature I have heard of players saying to be better than these are the older Winslow ligatures like Johnny uses. There is also a company called Saxxas Ligatures that produces a replica of the Winslow ligatures and great things are being said of those ligatures too. I have never tried a ligature like a Winslow or Saxxas, but I do own a Francois Louis with my Guardala Studio and it’s fantastic….WAY better than Rovners for sure. Francois Louis ligatures are very good for MPs like Guardala, Bergs, etc.. because they allow the reed to resonate freely; which means improved sound….provided our tone has developed to a point where we can play bigger MPs like this. Check out the reviews that players who bought them are giving the ligature, all of them gave the ligature a 5-star rating. Playing one myself, my rating for this ligature would be 5-star too.

                  http://www.wwbw.com/Ultimate-Ligature-Francois-Louis-Saxophone-Ligatures-472130-i1429270.wwbw#/product-details

                  #20037
                  Anonymous

                    For my classical setup I use a rovner ligature, and I noticed when i played in a jazz/swing band last week. My sound was exactly like all the experienced sax players around me. So based on that – i don’t need to change from using a rovner.

                    As for squeaking in the high register that sounds more like an embouchure not used to a wider mouthpiece – seen a lot of demos of that on youtube with professionals trying out mouthpieces that they don’t use when they play professionaly.

                    #20086
                    Frank Basamania
                    Participant

                      I was thinking it was embouchure not used to a wider mouthpiece. I think I just have to get used to it. I do like the ligature that came with the Berg. I like the sound I get overall but I know there’s a better setup for me. I’m just working my way up little by little.

                      #20087
                      Anonymous

                        if you like your sound & your ligature – i would stick with it!

                        Johnny’s daily practice routine + the 1st two lessons of his Altissimo course which i do daily as a warm up – made a vast difference to my sound. A much
                        cheaper alternative to getting a
                        cracking sound than pond hopping
                        around various mouthpieces/ligatures/reeds.

                        The proof in that – if you look at student sax players in their teens, they can only afford very
                        basic setups & they sound GREAT.

                        In terms of getting the right setup? Seriously – take a Pro sax player along with you, tell him the type of sound you want (classical, jazz etc.) try out the
                        new setups, play a simple tune and get his feed back! In the long run, its cheaper to pay for his advice than troll through lots of setups.

                        Thats what i did, and he picked out a mouthpiece which sounded to me awfully dull – i would have overlooked looked it for a brighter sounding mouthpiece! Against my own judgement i took his advice, bought the mouthpiece he liked the sound of – within a few days/weeks – got a good classical tone which i love.

                        In my case it works better for me to get feed back about what my setup sounds like from experienced sax player, as i think my mind can play tricks on me about how i feel my sound sounds like – hence i have to rely on a tuner, or another sax sound around me to compare to.

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