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  • #23145
    john
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      yes Michael you are getting the ideas flowing…love the trills and growling very nice.
      The thing you must work on now is intonation. Overall, you’re off from the track so you need to work with the A440 tuning app.
      I checked your tracks and they’re in tune so you can work from there. If you don’t have a tuner there is an A440 on youtube.
      I have a lesson on how to tune your sax perfectly in the blog. This is important because although you’re starting to get a good handle on your licks, if you’re that out of tune with a band they will notice it right away, even if you don’t so work with that tuner!

      #23146
      Michael
      Participant

        I’ve been using the A440 video from youtube almost every time I practice and it’s on my “liked” videos on youtube…I thought it was spot on but I’ll check it again; thanks for bringing this out. Do you think maybe the ligature has anything to do with it? I just ordered a good ligature this morning, cause the cheap one I’m using now constricts the reed. Other than that, I don’t know what else it could be.

        #23152
        Michael
        Participant

          My Altissimo G is a little out of tune, checked it with the tuner. It was slightly flat-sounding. Thanks Johnny for bringing that out. That’s something because if you take a close look at when I play Alt. G in this video–one example is holding it it for a long time near the end–I elected this time not to hit the G# key (fingering position No.2) and that’s probably what happened. I just hit the high bis key and the side palm key that we use for playing high F#. I didn’t think on this Saxophone the G# key effected the intonation on Alt.G, but looks like it does. Thanks for bringing this out to me.

          #23164
          john
          Keymaster

            no not the lig. experiment with the mp. go extreme with it … it’s not specifically the high G, it’s the entire horn so you have to figure out where the mp should be at on the cork….I think it needs extreme adjustment so experiment with it. if you can’t get it closer with the A440 app then use another kind of tuner that shows you how flat or sharp you are either with LED or the level type. you need to do this because you’re not detecting it as you play with the track.

            #23188
            Anonymous

              michael – i dig the backing track! really cool!
              i could tell you are way out of tune from the 1st note – no big deal, you must be kicking yourself? No problems! just tune up the sax & redoo the upload!

              What i did do was, i imagined what the notes you were playing – i imagined them in tune, and it sounds fantastic ! i can see where you are going with your playing! Hats off to you!!

              #23189
              Anonymous

                JF – hats off to you – the sign of a great teacher is measured by his patience!!!

                #23196
                john
                Keymaster

                  Yes I agree with JB, the notes you are using are right on, you have taken the right approach with the blues scales and my last suggestions etc… just need to zero in on the intonation with your horn.

                  #23250
                  Michael
                  Participant

                    Thanks much Johnny, at least that is an added plus of seeing that I am understanding the Blues, starting to anyway. The problem has been that lately, with us being in the middle of a move to our new house that will be done very soon, I’ve been having to take the Sax apart and put it back in the case after every practice v.s. leaving it on the stand because if I leave it on a stand right now, either one of our pets or the kids is going to knock them over…that would be a near “fatal” blow to me. I just spent over $5,000 on these Saxophones, can’t just leave them out on a stand right now. So when I pull out the Sax, I’ve been relying on youtube videos to help me hone in on that “frequency” but it looks like this hasn’t been helping me, determining where the MP needs to be placed on the cork (not too far back or too far forward)…that’s all the problem is. I just posted a question in the “general questions” section of the forum asking about a tuner, check it out when you get a chance please.
                    Just a side question, the reverb, etc. on the video doesn’t seem to be “too much? Just asking that for knowledge sake because we added slightly more on it than the last video–it kind of strikes me as maybe slightly too much, but maybe I’m wrong?
                    JB: Great points and thanks for sharing. Not really down about it or anything, but the youtube videos I’ve been using to help me get those frequencies aren’t helping me that much..we’re all different and our individual needs are different. For some student players those videos may be all they need, for others like me I need more than just that. I need a good tuner that’s going to help me “hone in” on those frequencies so that I can determine where exactly on the cork I need to place the MP..in this video it was either too far back or not far back enough….that’s all that’s wrong and with a good tuner it will be resolved very, very quickly. On the plus side, you can see that I’m understanding Johnny’s teachings in Killer Blues and starting to use them in my playing…it’s starting to become part of “me” if you get my meaning. I have to give myself something to feel good about, nothing wrong with the LOL It’s getting there…patience 🙂

                    #23387
                    Kevin
                    Participant

                      Michael, When I was doing one of my uploads for christmas 2013, I went out to my shop(40degF) did a quick take and went thru the whole upload process and got a quick response from Johnny that I was “out-of-tune”. I’m still embarrassed that in my haste I didn’t get things tuned up before recording, but more so that I somehow didn’t pay good enough attention to have heard it.
                      So you don’t have to feel alone in that respect, I already forged the path…

                      #23389
                      Michael
                      Participant

                        Yeah, it’s all part of the learning process for sure and I was certainly starting to let loose/blow my brains out as you can see. It’s taken so, so much hard work to play in the Altissimo range ( not to mention holding those Altissimo notes as long as I was here near the end) & Improvise like this…but it all went down the drain because of being out of tune LOL –But that’s the great thing about uploading here because it reveals things that we don’t see ourselves…..now imagine if we hold back from uploading? Our progress would be way slower, we would develop really bad habits, etc.. Like what you see on this video here..it could have become a very bad habit of sorts of not paying more attention. I have my first-ever live performance coming Nov.14th and an audition in December for the annual River Fest that’s held here every Memorial Day weekend…can you imagine the “pain” of being out-of-tune for these upcoming events?!? I think it’s easy to see where I’m going with that one..but it all starts here on the blog to make sure we’re doing things right…I’m very grateful to Johnny for adding this aspect to his website and taking out time from his busy to schedule to look at our videos/provide feedback….what a HUGE help to say the least. I don’t know of another Saxophone website where you can get this kind of support.

                        The thing about it is that I’ve always certainly been aware of tuning the Sax and as mentioned I have been relying on A440 hz videos to do it, but as we can see I need more help. The good news is that I have a tuner coming from Amazon, already on it’s way “in transit” on the shipping and in quick order the tuning will be fixed, so no worries and I’ll upload it again after I get my tuner. I also think being able to visually see on the tuner whether I’m flat/sharp is going to really help me fine-tune my ears because once I see it, then it will be easier for me to hear it. I was actually just thinking about this very thing today because in focusing like Crazy on Blues/Rock Improvisation in Johnny’s Killer Blues ebook, the thing that made it all click for me mentally….(drums please LOL)…was the keyboard. Johnny talks about lots of things like major/minor intervals, flat 5, minor 3rd, perfect fifths, etc.. Once you understand the Piano keyboard, then you know exactly what he’s talking about. Once I understood all of that, then I was able to hear those things on the Saxophone. But without having a visual aide of the keyboard, it would have been much harder to understand. The visual aide of the keyboard is what helped me understand Johnny’s lessons in Killer Blues. I would take his exercises and play them on the keyboard first. Once I saw how they worked/the theory behind it all, then it was FAR EASIER to understand on the Saxophone. So I think being able to visually see on a tuner v.s. trying to “hear” it, at this point in time, will help me immensely…..the visual aide of the keyboard is how I came to understand Johnny’s lessons in Killer Blues. Because we can take the knowledge in not just Killer Blues, but his new Improvisation course and apply it to any scale…provided we know our scales first. I will get to his new course in time to come, but I’m focusing on this kind of playing first because it allows me to express myself & allows me to play the way I’ve always imagined playing a Saxophone. Even before I started learning how to play from Johnny, this is the kind of music I would buy on CDs (now ways it’s all mp3 LOL) But at least now you know what goes on in my mind, musically, when you hear this kind of playing….I love this stuff 🙂
                        To anyone who may be thinking about uploading a video but are a little “hesitant” to do it, I would strongly encourage you to not hold back and upload to get that valuable feedback from Johnny–he’s the only pro player here on his site (maybe he has another member or 2 who is a pro player here? I don’t know of anyone else) and the rest of us are mere student players who make loads of mistakes….sorry for the long post LOL

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