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February 6, 2015 at 3:18 pm #13505
It’s a smaller instrument so requires less effort/air.
To make the tenor bark down on the low end is pretty tough for beginners and not so tough on the alto.
All that being said, I don’t think it’s that much easier, not enough to make that the reason for someone’s choice on which one to play.February 7, 2015 at 3:24 am #13506As I watch a ton of videos of yours and others, about the Saxophone, it would seem that lip pressure and controlled amounts of air, are what it take to ge the right reed vibration, to produce ear-pleasing sounds. Is that about the size of it?
When I was a fifth grader, (many years ago) I toted around a trombone (my dad plays the trombone) back-n-forth to school. I liked it ok, but when I got my braces a year or two later, the air required to play it, made my teeth “buzz” so uncomfortably, that I quit the trombone (not to mention how the braces were cutting into the inside of my mouth when I played, as well).
I bought a Native American Flute some years ago, and learned about covering holes to produce different notes, and the surprisingly soft air presentation into the instrument that is needed, to produce proper notes in that instrument.
So I’m coming with only those reference points, into Saxophone. Nothing else.
Seems that there are so many Saxophone players who spend a great deal of money, energy and time, in buying mouthpieces and reeds. Isn’t it possible to find a decent mouthpiece, and a decent reed type, and use those for a long time, without the apparent frustration of trying to find the right mouthpiece and reed marriage?
I’m making a rookie assumption, that the squeaks and sqwalks of the amateur, are because they are trying to push (typically) too much air thru the mouthpiece and reed, and the god-awful sounds that come out, are the reed over-reacting to the unnecessary push of air. Does that about capture the problem? Shouldn’t most rookies like me, realize up front, that “less is better,” and that “even flow (sustain)” is better?
Last week, I was allowed (from a friend) to borrow an Alto Saxophone, because I said I was interested in learning the instrument. Unfortunately, the instrument in question (a “Horace” Stencil of a Martin or Beauhler I’m told) is in pretty rough and unplayable condition. Today I will be visiting a local Saxophone Shop (http://www.timmoranwoodwinds.com/) to ask the Technician to put in writing “what it will take to make this horn playable”). I will spend some time looking over his Inventory of new and used Saxophones, with a preference for the Tenor ones.
When it comes to the question of air, I’m a fairly strong-lunged individual, (in fact, when I get X-Rays of my lungs from time to time, they tell me that my lungs are “so large” that they have to do segmented X-Rays, to capture the whole length of them. So I figure that explains why I can do long sustains and hold my breath longer under water than most folks (lol). I’m assuming that physical uniqueness will be helpful with the Saxophone (lol)?
-Soupy
February 7, 2015 at 9:01 am #13508Anonymous
Hi Soupy – i’ve played guitar since i was in my teens & played piano for a couple of years all self taught.
When my daughters were very young i learnt to play the recorder when they were learning the recorder in school.
Then my daughters moved to learning the clarinet and flute in their teens – i had a go on the flute & it didn’t appeal
to me, i tried the clarinet & though it was fantastic compared to the recorder, but my daughter didn’t want me
playing the same instrument, so i never took it up.
Then one day one of my daughters couldn’t make her flute practice, so i asked her instructor to give me a saxophone
taster lesson. In 10 minutes he had me playing 5 notes & leant me one of his spare sax’s for 2 weeks – and i’ve never
looked back. In fact i stopped playing the guitar as i found it more challenging & more akin to singing!In terms of price the outlay of a modest pro-sax is no different to the outlay of a good pro acoustic guitar.
Like guitars, the more you pay, not only do they play better, but they are built much more better.
The cost of a set of guitar strings is roughly the price of a box of 10 reeds. Guitarists have the same
problem with deciding which strings to use, just like sax players have with reeds.My advice to you would be to buy the best you can afford sax wise (just like a guitar),
get yourself a good teacher, and he can hopefully prevent you from wasting your money on
buying lots of different mouthpieces & reeds!February 7, 2015 at 11:11 am #13509Soupy, you’re on the right track. getting it looked over to make sure it’s working properly is a must or else you’re just asking for more grief.
As for spending too much time and money, ya, most tend to do that because there are so many options and variable with reeds and mp’s.
The danger is constant searching before a good tone is established because we think the problem is with our set up, when it just may be us.It takes some time to establish a decent tone. When starting out get a good recommended mp and a reed strength that allows you to blow some sounds out of the horn. This basic set up will be good for several months at which point you may only require a slightly harder reed…like one half size up, say from a 1.5 to a 2. This can repeat over the first year with the same mp.
As for your question about air… no, it’s the opposite. you want to blow very loud and push as much air from your diaphragm as possible. The mistake beginners make is not getting the air from the diaphragm.Without this proper air support a good and pleasant tone will not happen. The squeeks are from the reed, it could be dry or just a crappy reed.
February 7, 2015 at 1:41 pm #13511Some great stuff there guys!! Thanks!!
Just visited a local “Woodwind” shop, run by a guy who specializes in Saxophones (repair/sales). There were a good number of Instruments there, and I was in the “used” market. He showed me a Selmer Bundy II Tenor Saxophone that he is in the midst of doing some rehab on, that had some minor scratches on it. Otherwise, it looked good. He’s agreed to sell it to me for $500.00 (Price includes the case, a new Yamaha #5 MP, a Ligature, A Strap, Cork Grease, and a cleaning kit and a 1 year Warranty).
He’ll be done with it in a week or so, and I’ll go pick it up. He’ll play it for me (since I don’t know a DARN thing about it) to show me that it is fully functional and in good order, and I’ll then begin to put into practice the things I’ve already learned here, from the videos available, and have also looked up a local Saxophone teacher that comes highly recommended, to be able to have some “live” feedback.
Looking forward to the journey!! Any thoughts on the Saxophone choice I made? Meanwhile, I ordered a box of Rico #2 Reeds, and am looking up all I can about what I’m about to venture into.
-Soupy
February 7, 2015 at 3:08 pm #13513Excellent choice and a good price too. Even tho it’s a student model it’s still a Selmer (best maker in the world).
When he plays it for you make sure he also plays a the very lowest range… this is where the troubles can be and so if he can play it nicely down there it’ll be ok.February 8, 2015 at 4:31 am #13514Quote:…………..When he plays it for you make sure he also plays a the very lowest range… this is where the troubles can be and so if he can play it nicely down there it’ll be ok.Thanks, I’ll remember to ask him to do that.
-Soupy
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