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March 21, 2016 at 11:08 am #34825
The MB11 and the Fatboy sound very similar. The MB1 doesn’t sound as edgy as the Fatboy or the MB11. I’m going with the MB11. Nice edge and tone.
March 21, 2016 at 11:13 am #34826Anonymous
Hi Johnny
Thanks for these examples. I’m trying to play this tune at present and it gives me a good reference to work from.
Comparing the first two MP’s I could compare them to Hi-Fi turntable cartridges. The MBI sounds like a good moving-magnet MM cartridge, but the MBII sounds like a moving-coil MC cartridge in that the sound is clearer and more precisely defined. You could have taken a muffler off the microphone for the 2nd recording – LOL.
The Fatboy has nearly as much precision as the MBII, but it’s mid-range frequencies are boosted to give a much fuller and louder sound.My favourite is still the MBII because of its precision, and if I could play well enough on Tenor I would buy one immediately.
March 21, 2016 at 1:50 pm #34833Nice renditions. I do still like the MB II though did you let rip a bit more on the Fat Boy? Is this tune coming out soon? Very excited as my MB II has landed in Sydney so only 915 klm away now!
March 21, 2016 at 2:04 pm #34834Anonymous
wow – all 3 mouthpieces sound completely different.
mb1 – not sure about the reed. you sound like you’ve outgrown this mouthpiece.
mb11 – this mouthpiece has the potential to sound very graceful and projects a lot of feelings. This mouthpiece sounds unpolished, in other words stick with this one for a few months and the whole thing will change, could be a diamond.
fatboy – this mouthpiece is Johnny Ferreira Rock n Roll, this is good to go. No need to work on this mouthpiece. Sounds fantastic.
if you were playing a gig tonite – the fatboy is a no brainer.
March 21, 2016 at 3:44 pm #34838Wow, fantastic stuff Johnny 🙂 It’s a coin-toss between the Fatboy and MBII. I love the MBI, but I think the MBII and Fatboy have more grit/bite. Are you getting ready to release this song? That would be FANTASTIC…..I’ve waited to see when you were going to do it 🙂
March 21, 2016 at 8:17 pm #34849Hey guys, you all have some good ears there!
thanks a bunch for the comments.
I must admit that I’m feeling more comfortable with the fatboy now. the first time I recorded the other demo video I had just gotten it so was still a bit weird, but I knew I liked it, was just a matter of spending some time with it. The MB11 is not there yet for me cause I haven’t played it nearly as much yet but will do so. and the MB1 is now lacking some fulness compared to the new ones but it’s a hard one to let go cause I’ve been playing it so long and so the feeling is just more comfortable still than the others. but I agree with you guys that it’s probably not the best sounding all-round.
Yes, have done the song video and so will get everything up this week probably so the download will be available soon.BTW, I didn’t use any EQ on any of the tracks, and I tried my best to play them all equally the same and tried to mix the levels the same as well. If anyone of them came out more this or that it’s truly because of the mp and/or because of the comfort level i had with them (this can make a difference too).
March 22, 2016 at 1:27 am #34857Yeah, I got to say that Fatboy comes across more just like ‘you’ 🙂 I’m not sure if Nadir had you in mind when he made it, but that’s the way it comes across 🙂 Seems like other members are saying pretty much the same thing. I think Johnny if you’re loving it then that’s the bottom line. That is so, so cool that you’re doing this song and all I can say is THANK YOU so much…I’ve been waiting for you to do it for awhile LOL A lot of the tracks I’ve heard people using for this song sound kind of ‘contemporary’ which is cool too, but your rendition sounded a lot more like the original release in the sense that it has more of that feeling which conveys feeling and emotion v.s. a lot of tracks I’ve heard people who play this song on youtube use. I’m actually thinking about learning it on the Alto for a variety of reasons–it sounds so, so fantastic on Tenor Sax and everyone loves to hear it on Tenor and rightly so; but I haven’t seen too many people doing it on the Alto so it would be interesting to see hear, the Alto is cool too.
March 23, 2016 at 7:42 pm #34948They all sound great, but I like the MB2 and MB2 Fatboy better. Mine (MB 2 FB) cleared customs in San Francisco 2:13 pm March 22nd.
March 23, 2016 at 11:20 pm #34950Good to hear that Nick. Let us know how it plays for you after you have a chance to try it out.
March 25, 2016 at 12:24 pm #35023Hi Johnny and others!
Just got the chance to play around with the new MB2 Fatboy [Tenor]. The craftsmanship looks great…the tip and rails look clean, symmetrical and consistent. My limited playing time has allowed me to say that this mpc projects! I often play un-miked, so this will easily fill any venue I’ve played in thus far. For me, this is a free blowing mpc, with great response. But it is NOT overly free blowing where I am unable to shape my tone. The horn responds nicely, including the sometimes problematic [for me] lower register. The reeds that have worked for me with this particular piece are:
Rico [Daddario?] Jazz Select 2H, unfiled
Rico Plastic Cover 3.0
Rigotti 2.5 MOne notable thought: The supplied lig [for the MB2 Fatboy] secures the reed to the mpc table with a slightly more “centered” pressure pad. The ligatures that I’ve been using up to now secured the reeds with pressure along the side of the reed’s bark [and the bark to the top-sides of the mpc table]. So, reeds that I have broken in previous to this trial, may have took the shape of my previous mouthpiece, and that had been secured via this side pressure, as opposed to pressure down the center portion of the reed’s bark. So, with reeds that had taken on the shape of my previous mpc AND via the side pressure lig, I wasn’t getting a good, crisp sound while using the suppled lig [center pressure]. But when I placed my older lig [that applied pressure down the sides], everything was fine.
So to further test this theory out, I opened a brand new reed [that had no prior molding or shaping], and I tried the supplied lig that had a center pressure pad, and it sang just fine. This is probably the case because the brand new reed was not warped or not shaped into any previous profile, so it was able to provide a good seal with the supplied, center pressure lig.
So, keep that in mind if you are using the supplied lig with an already broken-in reed, you may have to either get a fresh reed, or use your old [side pressure] lig…or you may risk dismissing otherwise good playing reeds for this mpc/ligature set-up.
Also: Intonation was very good!
Have fun all! Thanks Johnny!!!!
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