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  • February 28, 2017 at 7:04 am #49582
    Anonymous

      in step 1, if you know your cycle of fifth’s then you can use that to recall all the notes in any Dominant 7th (mixolydian) scale.
      ex in the cycle of fifths, for C7, the F follows a C in the cycle of fifths so all notes in F major are the same ones in C7 scale

      February 28, 2017 at 9:39 am #49605
      Anonymous

        To expand further for anyone less familiar with music theory

        C – F – Bb – Eb – Ab – Db – Gb – B – E – A – D – G

        if you can remember the order of the letters in the cycle of fifths above,
        Then for any major Scale,

        to recall what notes are in a Dominant 7 Major (mixolydian) scale, use the next letter in sequence from the cycle of 5 th’s
        eg
        for Bb major scale
        to recall the notes in a Bb7 scale (Bb Dominant 7 ‘mixolydian’) scale has the same notes as in the Eb Major scale (Eb follows Bb in cycle of 5th’s)

        to recall what notes are in a Minor (Dorian) scale, use the second letter in sequence from the cycle of 5 th’s
        eg
        for Bb major scale
        to recall the notes in a Bb- (Bb Minor ‘Dorian’) scale has the same notes as in the Ab Major scale (Ab follows Eb follows Bb)

        The other alternative is
        for a Dominant 7 major scale remember to flatten the 7th.
        for a Minor (Dorian) scale remember to flatten the 3rd and the 7th.
        Which doesn’t help me as i have to stop and think which is the 3rd and which is the 7th and have to remember to flatten them when playing, whereas if i know all 12 major scales, just pretend i’m playing in another scale and ignore 3rds and 7ths.

        Don’t you just love music theory!

        February 28, 2017 at 11:37 am #49607
        Anonymous

          Which all begs the question, why bother learning these 3 different scales?
          imho – the major chord, minor chord and the dominant chord are commonly used chords, so knowing the derived scales makes it easier to derive the chords in terms of 3 5 7 and 9 chords.

          C chord – C E G B (from C major scale)
          C7 chord – C E G Bb (from the F major scale if you use the Mixolydian scale)
          C- chord – C Eb G Bb (from the Bb major scale if you use the Dorian scale)

          ex in playing the guitar, common chords are based on the 1st, 4th and 5th.
          ie if you play a song in C major , you may come across the C chord, F chord and the G7 chord occurring (and F C & G are close together in the cycle of 5th’s IV – I – V). If you throw in the minor chords, you have a choice of D, E and A minor which could be dorian, phrygian or Aeolian scale based, a toss up between the relative A minor related to the C major scale or the D dorian minor for a jazzy preference.

          all this from reading one book.

          February 28, 2017 at 11:50 am #49608
          Mel
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            sxpoet – nice job on these posts!. A Book Forum would be cool.

            Mel

            February 28, 2017 at 12:25 pm #49609
            Anonymous

              Mel – “Book Forum” a better choice of name.

              having to rely on sellers websites, doesn’t help much in terms of what is in a book, compared to chatting to someone who has the book and has used it.

              I’ve got several books, that i have bought, been mis-lead by the title, and realised its not exactly what i wanted, even though it may be of use to someone else.

              It can be simply at what level of player its aimed at, how clear it is in descriptions, does it just barely touch on the subject, or is it too over the top, are the exercises worth doing etc..

              March 4, 2017 at 5:03 pm #49945
              john
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                Hey sorry for the lateb reply, there is a forum here already called “Sax Lesson and Books” and seems like there’s already a lot of forums so use that one.

                As for this book you mentioned it’s an excellent book. Everyone that’s serious should work out of it. I’ve been through a few Aebersold books over the years and they’re very good.

                March 5, 2017 at 4:22 am #49960
                Anonymous

                  cool, i was under the impression that forum was just for your e-books and querries related to your courses, but that should work fine, judging from the feed back it’s hardly worth the effort. lol

                  March 5, 2017 at 10:37 am #49978
                  john
                  Keymaster

                    Right. yes, it’s for both, my stuff but other stuff too. what usually happens is people email me direct for stuff but I wish they’d use the forum because sometimes the answers could enlighten other as well. that’s the whole point of forums after all.

                    March 5, 2017 at 3:08 pm #49993
                    Anonymous

                      it’s useful to find out what books people work from, particularly the ones they keep going back to week by week, as it can be an indicator that they’ve found a book that works for.

                      I recently looked online at customer reviews for over 60 different saxophone neck straps, and every single neck strap had something wrong with it that caused a problem with the customer. Which is great as its narrowed down the choice two straps that i want to try out, and as i play with the sax at the side and not in front of me, that makes a huge difference to the choice of strap.

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