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  • #110893
    RockinRobin
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    Very slowly. Something about the Dominant 7th scale. Thake the 4th of a major scale e.g. G scale. The 4th of the G major scale is C. No sharps or flats in the C major scale ergo G dominant 7th G A B C D E F natural. E dominant 7th. 4th of the E major scale is A. A major has 3 sharps, C# G# F#. So E Dominant 7th is E F# G# A B C# D Natural E. Funny how things work out in Music
    William

    #110899
    sx poet
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    in C major the Mixolydian mode gives G A B C D E F.
    If you flatten the 7th note in G Major gives G A B C D E F.

    So for a G Dominant 7 chord (GBDF) you can play the C Major scale in the bar.

    in lesson one, the focus is mainly to get you to improvise in the scale of the tune ie the notes in G major are used. With a chord having 4 notes means you have the option of starting at 4 different points in the G Major scale or 4 different modes to be precise.

    scales are like different languages, so if you talk in the same language then the everything matches up, so the improvisation using G major notes for a Tune set in G Major is a safe bet, compared to using notes from a different Major Scale.

    So for a very basic improvisation, start off by learning to improvise just using notes in the Scale of the tune, before trying more difficult stuff, which in this beginning stage you need to practice all the modes in a major scale on its own, so you can do a simple Chord match up, before doing any improvisation with the backing track loop.

    #110901
    sx poet
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    Managed to do the 1st part of lesson two today.

    Just using a metronome in 4/4 timing, it took me probably 20 goes to be able to play the modes up and down in time with the metronome from memory.

    ie
    E F# G A B C# D E D C# B A G F# E in 2 bars followed by
    D E F# G A B C# D C# B A G F# E D next 2 bars followed by
    G ////
    F# ////
    B ////
    A ////
    D ////
    C# ////

    trying to recall the order of each of the 4 notes in both chords was the hardest part while playing each mode, but playing the modes for each note was easy. When i finally could do that with the metronome, then i tried out the backing track loop and that was ok after several attempts.

    It looks easy to do, but doing it is a different matter, especially from memory without looking at the sheet.

    #110902
    sx poet
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    So William for the 2-5-1 music sheet, create a loop to repeatedly play back the three chords in the 2-5-1 order
    ex G-C-F if the song is in F major.

    Then for each chord
    Gminor7 (G Bb D F), Cdominant7 (C E G Bb), Fmajor7 (F A C E)

    bar 1 play the mode starting with G (A Bb C D E F G)
    bar 2 play the mode staring with C (D E F G A Bb C)
    bar 3 play the mode starting with F (G A Bb C D E F)
    bar 4 play the mode starting Bb (C D E F G A Bb)
    bar 5 play the mode starting with E
    bar 6 play the mode starting with A
    bar 7 D ///
    bar 8 G ///
    bar 9 C ///
    bar 10 F ///
    bar 11 Bb ///
    bar 12 E ///

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