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  • #19574
    Anonymous

      Thanks Michael – just wanted to hear what your new sax sounds like – it ROCKS man!!

      Some of these sounds that sax players mske, there is no convention in music how to describe it on sheet music – for
      example you know how to play a trill & sheet music will show a trill sign to indicate it!
      I’ve got a 9 page booklet on one song just to describe how the sax player plays each phrase & notes
      the author had to come up with a lot weird signs on the sheet to
      indicate how he played certain
      parts, so i can understand you
      will find some sheet music wont
      exist.

      #19581
      Anonymous

        @Michael – in terms of your recording setup – i can’t comment,
        as i haven’t got a clue as i wan’t to upgrade mine – i only use an
        apple i-touch to record my sax.

        I don’t think you need to increase
        the sax volume, i would get the mic as close to the sax bell as possible, and increase the volume of the backing track – But thats just a matter of personal taste.

        My teacher would say dont use mouthpieces with large projectios in small rooms – to him it doesn’t sound right to a listener
        in the same room in relation to a
        backing track! Thats his view – not mine, he thinks you can’t get
        the right balance.

        When you hit the perfect setup settings – i will be interested – it will be helpful for me when i
        go down that route – i don’t know
        whether to get an apple mac or
        a 8 track portaatudio recorder.

        #19585
        Michael
        Participant

          Hi JB,

          I kind of felt the same as your instructor does when doing this edit–the projection with a Theo Wanne with this Sax is just….ludicrous. It sounds absolutely fantastic but I’m in a very small room where we’re stacking boxes being in the middle of a move. Right now everything feels small in the house because of things packed everywhere. But before we started packing the room/house didn’t feel small at all, so go figure LOL But it came across to me as just a little TOO much, given the space that I was in, because I wanted a subdued sound with this Alto Sax Instrumental–go listen to the original release by Mike Shapiro on youtube and you’ll see what I mean when you listen to it. Now with the Tenor Instrumental I’ll be uploading soon in the key that the Classics IV did “Spooky” in of Fm (played in Gm for the Tenor)…..that is a different story 🙂 For that one, I’ll attempt to see if I can find a different spot in the house because if the projection with my normal mp/ligature set up felt to be too much with the Alto, then that will certainly be a problem with the Tenor…WAY more edge/projection than the Alto. I will have to eventually get a better quality mic though…as an example for my Selmer Bundy Tenor, the intonation comes across as far, far more subdued/dull on videos that we made for it like “The Watermelon Man” and “Use Me” than what it Sax is in person; as my wife/friends have told me when they listen to the sax in person v.s. what’s on video.

          Yeah, the editing software that we’re using is new to us and it’s going to take some time to find the right balance of everything as you said; which is why the blog is great because of the support system and feedback I can get from experienced Members and Johnny himself; expect to see lots of trial and error in that regard. But most importantly, it’s always about getting feedback on the way we play the Saxophone and improvements in our playing that we’re trying to make..no recording software can replace that.

          #19586
          john
          Keymaster

            Hey Michael, awesome that you’re now getting those high altissimo notes at will! This is really good., Another good thing is you’re starting to throw in some solo riffs which are starting to work very well.
            Not sure about that long run down you do several times…is it supposed to be a fast scale or a chromatic scale? I would figure out which one and tighten that up cause as is now sounds jerky and broken up and to me it doesn’t make sense.
            Don’t think the sax has to come up, if anything the trsacks should match it a bit more and good that you didn’t abuse the reverb!
            way to go, keep rockin’!

            #19589
            Michael
            Participant

              QUESTION JOHNNY: The distance between me and the USB mic didn’t seem to be too far? How about the appearance of the video on your cpu. screen? Listen and watching it on my cpu, it seemed like there may be a problem in this regard. It was like the pixels of the video were broken up or something, but my son produced it in HD, not sure what happened. It also sounded like to me the Sax in some places sounded too faded or something, so we would just adjust the input on the mic and that’s it.
              Those were were supposed to be chromatic scales/fall offs and my problem is that I get “stage freight” and I think about it too much when that happens v.s. ignoring the fact that I’m recording myself and just let it happen like I do when I practice; it’s a mental thing for me and there’s no excuses other than that. I’m working on what I see lots of players do when they play: they’re in the own little world and you can NOT break them even if you pinched them; they’re in a ZONE. I don’t think about Altissimo, at all, anymore….I just play it and that’s what I need to do with chromatic scales. I did manage to pull that off with the Watermelon Man because I didn’t think about it. Somedays it’s there mentally for me and others it’s not, depending on what’s on my mind.
              For the licks/riffs, your course on Killer Blues is THE focus of my playing right now and that’s all I did here. Mostly, I just played the 1-3-5-7 of the chord of the scale; 4 notes in the full range of the Saxophone and that’s it. I’ve learned from you that, when it comes from this type of playing; the simpler the better. We can think that it needs to be complicated to sound good but it’s exactly the opposite.
              When I get back home this evening, I was going to post here in the forum a question for you regarding some key notes within the scale I’m working with for my Tenor Instrumental of this same song….the projection of the TJ SR Tenor that I bought is just amazing and smile everytime I play it! Some folks think that I may have wasted $ on buying the Alto that I did, but I think this song that I just uploaded is a perfect example of how cool the Alto is….I LOVE IT!!! Where that thinking comes from about investing into a pro model being a waste comes from; I don’t know but I don’t agree with it either. Wonder what someone like Earl Bostic would have said about that?

              #19590
              Anonymous

                stage fright/nerves etc.. can be 2 things (possibly more)
                1- being outside your comfort zone
                2- you haven’t practiced it enough to stop making mistakes

                in case 2 keep plugging away until its error free!
                Then turn it on its head and play it like you don’t care
                if you make a mistake – just go ahead and make mistakes
                because it doesn’t matter and absorb that sensation!
                Get a really good feeling about i don’t care if i make
                a mistake, then take that feeling and play it again!
                The next stage is if you can truly play it, then play it
                in a lot of silly styles – then get back on track and
                play it properly!

                1- now get yourself in a right state before playing,
                then do a 15 min warm up session ie be able to play
                it slowly but error free! At this stage you should still
                be out of your comfort zone.
                When the big moment comes be it recording time / exam
                time where your playing will be assesed by someone
                the minute the backing player
                /backing track kicks off you get into the comfort zone
                of the band/backing track etc..

                Thats what happened when i went for my first sax exam, in
                fact 1st exam in 35 years! i arrived 1/2 hr before the exam!
                went in the practice room & couldn’t play any of my 3 pieces
                without making mistakes, was nearly going to walkout,
                then i thought i’ve come this far, i might as well give it a go
                yolo – so i calmed down then managed to play all 3 pieces to
                a reasonable standard.
                Then i walked in the exam room, the examiner asked me what piece
                i was going to play, Strange thing happened, once the piano player
                played the 4 bar introduction, i felt i was back in my comfort zone
                sailed through all 3,pieces no mistakes. My comfort zone
                turned out to be the music around me when i was playing, once the
                music stopped i was out of my comfort zone.

                #19595
                Michael
                Participant

                  Great tips JB, thanks for the insights. I do all of the above you mention. I’m one of those in the category of how you listed of (possibly more) when we talk about stage freight LOL It’s something I’m working on for sure. We’ll see how that goes for the next edit I do on the Tenor Sax.

                  And now JB…it’s your turn to do an upload! 🙂 I’m hoping that we’ll start to see more Member’s uploads again; but with Johnny upgrading his site and members starting his new Improvisation course, it was to be expected that uploads of our playing would get be on a short pause. It’s a cool aspect of Johnny’s site for sure, I think it’s a very encouraging one too because we can all look back at what we’ve learned, get personal insights from Johnny/others, etc.. It’s a great learning tool for sure. It doesn’t have to be a song; I was actually planning to do some very raw videos of just my practice sessions. If Johnny can see HOW we practice, it can certainly help us improve our overall playing.

                  #19603
                  Anonymous

                    i’ve got a slightly different agenda – because of my age 57, and
                    starting to play the sax so late in life (declining memory – takes a lot
                    longer for me to memorise a song & play it back without the sheet), i
                    made the decision months ago to go the sheet playing route instead.

                    So i just wan’t to pickup any sheet and play it straight off, or after
                    a few run throughs play it nearly perfect – even if it means getting
                    a few bars down at a time if its a difficult piece.

                    So in the week when no one is around, i mainly do lots of technical
                    sight reading exercises, then at the weekends or if anyone is around
                    so as not to annoy them i get sheet music/backing tracks out and play
                    loads of songs one after the other, because of the volume & nature
                    of the technical exercises i do, everytime i get the song sheets out,
                    they seem to appear easier to play.

                    last year i was uploading lots of stuff, and one of the members
                    quite rightly pointed out that all my errors were consistent & he
                    couldn’t add anything different to his comments. so i
                    stopped uploading, and took down most of my youtube recordings.
                    I’ve got to the stage now where i don’t get a kick out of uploading
                    anymore, i prefer to play for my own personal enjoyment, or to play
                    to people in real time and get their feedback straight away.

                    So this sunday – i’m off out to play in a jazz/swing band (using sheet music) for a couple of hours – which is going to be my 1st public
                    playing.

                    #19685
                    Christopher Adams
                    Participant

                      hey well done Michael im really impressed with the way you were throwing those altissimo notes in there at will we im doing the course now so i hope that i can soon get to that standard well done again & keep on blowing man!

                      #19691
                      Z
                      Participant

                        How long have you been playing the sax for?

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