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  • #103596
    Anonymous

      1 4 1 1
      4 4 1 1
      5 4 1 5

      or

      1 1 1 1
      4 4 1 1
      5 4 1 5

      should be
      Bb7 Bb7 Bb7 Bb7
      Eb7 Eb7 Bb7 Bb7
      F7 Eb7 Bb7 F7

      #103601
      RockinRobin
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        Thanks JB
        I know the format. I have trouble in the transition from the 1 to the 4515 in a melodic way/sound. Easy if i have the sheet music. Doing it from memory is almost impossible since I’m mostly tone deaf. We’ll work on it

        #103602
        Anonymous

          if you can look at the “circle of 4ths” chart, and visually memorise what the chart looks like.

          Then you can recall the I-IV-V chords starting on any chord on the chart.

          Ex if your I chord is a Bb7 chord, then go anti-clockwise and you will visually recall the IV chord which is a Eb7 chord, and from Bb7 go clockwise and you will recall the V chord which is a F7 chord.

          Similarly if you are into Jazz where you play the II-V-I chords.

          ex if your II chord is a G chord, then go anti-clockwise and you will visually recall the V chord which is a C chord, and if you go anti-clockwise again, you will visually recall the I chord which is a F chord.

          so if you visually remember where all the letters are on the “Circle of 4ths”, then you can quite easily recall the I-IV-V or the II-V-I chords starting on any chord

          #103603
          Anonymous

            if you play chords I-IV-V in different keys going round the circle of 4ths, you get to hear the same pattern of chords, and you soon recognise what a I-IV-V sounds like in any key.

            The same thing goes for the II-V-I chord progression in any scale.

            It’s similar to recognising an octave note higher up, like if you listen to Somewhere over the Rainbow – Some(C)Where(Octave up C)

            #103779
            RockinRobin
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              Thanks JB. Something to work on.I can see the 125 or 241 or 251 is good for improvising. How can any of those 251 etc progressions help me play “Wonderful World” by Sam Cooke or “Sweet Caroline” by Neil D1amond?

              #103784
              Anonymous

                145 progressions found in blues music
                251 most common progression found in jazz music

                #103786
                saxomonica
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                  #103787
                  saxomonica
                  Participant

                    And 2 5 1
                    See the green circle on the tonal map to follow along with ok

                    #103790
                    RockinRobin
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                      I was looking at some of my music. “Do You Love Me” is almost all 1 4 5. In my Aebersold book, How to play Jazz and improvise is the page with the Circle and 2 5 1 exercises
                      William

                      #103791
                      Anonymous

                        I’m currently working my way through the IFR Courses – they are long term, talking years to work my way through. I’ve founds parts of it useful, it’s a case of trial and error, i tend to pick out the parts i find useful and incorporate them in my daily routine.

                        I’m just a novice, but if anyone comes up with any useful stuff or corrects me if i’ve got things wrong – by all means share the information, everyone has a lot to gain by discussion.

                        i’m currently memorising all 12 “minor 7 flat 5 (half diminished) arpeggios. The only reason i’m memorising all the types of chords (or arpeggios) – major, dominant 7, minor 7, half diminished, diminished, augmented is because i got fed up of looking through music sheets and fumbling trying to work out what chords are on the sax.

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